Card Walker: [The crisis] that I remember the most, because I was more involved in it, was really after World War II. That was a real crisis, Bob. When myself and others came back from the service, Walt had had four years of training films and insignias, and that was good on a day-to-day basis but had built no future values. That was a real critical time. We had no money and the bank loans were not there. And we didn’t have the product.

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