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Today we join Don Graham to look at the Pole vault. The discussions add Robert Leffingwell and Shamus Culhane. We saw Leffingwell as animator on The Whalers. Børge Ring tells me an anecdote about him: Leffingwell was down in Paris working for Paul Grimault (whom I met only once, in Arnhem, Holland, in the early 80's at a Holland Animation Film Festival), and tried to get him to use twos, where Grimault only wanted to use ones. He got Grimault to give him the cells of his favorite scenes from all of his shorts and had them shot on twos, removing every other cell. This convinced Grimault: from then on he used twos.[…]

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